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What's the point of Starlink?

with 4G/5G home internet, there's no real point anymore.


You likely live in a country with a population smaller than 5% of the worlds.

Many people do not have this option.

For me personally, the pathing of 5G and my broadband are too similar, so Starlink acts as a redundancy for these.


Where I live, I can try to use 4G. I get one bar of signal and when it's working I get anywhere from 0.2 to 20Mbps with 700ms (!) latency. It costs $80 for 150Gb a month.

Or I can use Starlink. I get a solid reliable signal, anywhere from 20-250 Mbps with 60ms latency. It costs $110 for unlimited bandwidth.

The real competition where I am is fixed wireless. That's 12 Mbps, 70ms latency, and $100/mo.


Decent satellite internet for people who can't get anything else?

I don't see how 4G/5G home internet existing removes the point of it.


Sounds like the rich kid version of me.

Parents students and teachers treated me like shit throughout elementary school, went to a new school and decided I wasn't gonna take it anymore.

Started misbehaving and getting suspended literally all the time, had over 400 disciplinary actions on my school recorded, got expelled from a few schools then expelled from the whole district, as in they just wouldn't let me go to that high school at all...

Turned myself around after choking my sister when I was 15 and damn near got arrested for it.

As in, I was sitting in the back of a cop car, not handcuffed but they patted me down, bawling my eyes out.

Thankfully my sister didn't say a word to the cop and that's when I decided I had to change.


This is about Fuchsia.

First Google is gonna run Fuchsia on Linux, then linux will be removed entirely.

that's what this laying the groundwork for.


I had a similar issue like 5 years ago.

I just called up ASUS and shipped the board to them, I paid the shipping cost and they reprogrammed the BIOS for free, besides shipping.


> - I wanted a form to register new types, so it could work for user-defined types;

> - the C pre-processor knows nothing about lists that can be expanded multiple times;

I'm actually working on both features as Clang extensions.

#repeat, a preprocessor directive to loop, can be combined with _Pragma(push_macro/pop_macro) to create lists by redefining a macro.

and currently #increment, though I think I want to expand on this so that other macros can be redefined more easily to create lists via push/pop macro.

The reason push_macro/pop_macro pragmas can't work, is the macro has to be undefined and redefined, and the value then pushed onto a stack in the compiler.

and you can't redefine a macro in the body of another macro directly.

so I've been thinking about maybe a _Pragma(redefine_macro(MacroToRedefine, NewValueForRedefinedMacro))

but I don't want it to be limited to the _Pragma area of the compiler, I want it to be eventually standardized.

I've been talking to a friend at WG14 who suggested making it a "Preprocessor Expression, like `__has_c_attribute` and `defined()`

So that's the area I've been working on recently for the Increment/Redefine PE lately.


I spent a long time thinking about this. My conclusion is that the simplest way to achieve this, at least in GCC, is to create a #copy directive that allows a macro, together with its stack, to be copied to another. GCC already allows stack expansion with push and pop but it can only be expanded once; the #copy directive would fix that.

If you get anything close to that working, that would be a godsend. It is the last remaining piece of the puzzle for me to implement complete RTTI in C. It would certainly help to minimize glib boiler plate code too.

I'd really like it to be part of c2x, but I think it is too late now. If it is implemented by either GCC or Clang, the remaining other would certainly it too since it is too useful. So getting it to work in any of these would be good enough for me.

How can I track/follow your progress?


There is __VA_OPT__ in C++2a, which handles recursion termination in macro expansion. This will probably be in future C, too, right?

And if there was also __EVAL__ to force the macro preprocessor into another evaluation level, you could write recursive macros quite easily, e.g., to wrap every argument into a function call:

    #define EACH(f,x,...) f(x) __VA_OPT__(, __EVAL__(EACH(f, __VA_ARGS__)))
This would make the macro magic for this library trivial: you could process lists recursively.

Edit: added missing paren


To remove secrets you can use git filter-repo to rewrite commits


Not anymore, they changed that in the last few years


Yes, third party app stores are mentioned explicitly.


Except Google didn't build those things except search.

They bought Android in 2005, Youtube in 2004? and all of their other, non-search successes.


People say this as if the entire (or majority) of Android's success rests with what they initially purchased. In my opinion it has very little to do with that and a lot more to do with the billions of dollars invested into developing, extending the platform, creating and supporting APIs, establishing contracts with OEMs, developing apps, etc etc. Android wasn't some magic thing that anyone that purchased it would have been sure to be successful. Just look at how well MS did with Nokia's purchase.

So yes, Google did purchase Android but Google didn't purchase their mobile success story by purchasing Android.


The whole way that Google handled Windows Mobile was anti competitive imho.

They prevented Windows Phone users from being able to access Google Maps by checking User Agents.

They didn't release a native Youtube app for Windows phone, and when Microsoft wanted to make one themselves they restricted them to HTML5 and non-native access. This penalized battery life on Windows Phone platforms for 2 very large and important services.

Google got success with Android by frankly bullying every other viable competitor out of the market (Amazon Fire, Windows Phone) by again bullying in regards to play store services.


You realize that Amazon Fire is Android, right?


Didn't GMail start as a 20% project?


I don't know about Gmail, but Google Maps was originally one.


Was it? There is a lot of Keyhole in there too. And remember maps.* and local.* both existed for a long time.


Xcode dev here, I have a certificate with a free account.

You only need to pay for it if you distribute your app on the app store.


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