And just to set the record straight from bosiDNA.com's perspective...
I'm Joe, the founder/CEO of bosiDNA.com.
pain_perdu you are walking on extremely thin ice making the libelous claim that my company is a spammer. Within minutes of you contact my company about the email you received, my staff responded and within the same business day provided you the information you requested. We also apologized for the mistake in including you in an email invitation to our free webinar.
You receiving that single (ONE) email from us was a mistake. We took responsibility for it and apologized. Yet you went ahead and posted this ridiculous claim on a platform like Hacker News. Your intent is 100% malicious. It is designed to hurt CoFoundersLab and bosiDNA.com. Why? Because you received one stupid email? Come on man. It was a mistake.
Had you received multiple emails and no response when you contacted us, I can understand taking the time to make this post. At that point, you would be well intentioned to make the claim that my company is a "spammer".
I think you've crossed a line of human decency by taking our apology for a manual glitch while uploading an email list and turned it into some sort of "knight in shining armor" act to protect the world from "spammers" like my company.
Do some homework on my company - and the amazing impact we are having on entrepreneurship around the world. Read articles all over the world about us and then you and other readers of this post decide if we need to spam anyone...for anything...ever.
Let's all be productive and do things to help others - rather than try and tear things down.
intellegacy - I looked you up and see that you also took the BOSI assessment. You received the same email pain_perdu did. Please accept my apology. That was a mistake on our part internally when sending out the invitation. We have not emailed CofoundersLab users in the past. This was a goof on our part. Hope you enjoyed the process of taking the assessment - and your results. I hope we added value to your entrepreneurial journey - and will always be here to serve in any way we can.
And one last thing pain_perdu - we don't "sell coaching services". We're one of the most successful non-tech Accelerators in the US. Won several awards for economic impact and job creation in just the last 12 months. Haven't won an award for spamming yet though. But maybe someday...
Seriously, this is not a much deserved response. This does not put bosiDNA in good light.
Why should he do any homework on your stupid company?
Why was he even pulled into this thing?
It was your complete mistake and you should expect to feel the brunt (that may mean such posts) even after you have apologized. Sorry does not mean that you are exempt from the brunt. Please stop saying sorry if you cannot take the blame for your mistakes.
First of all, taking someone's email id from another service (which says that they will never share), and then sending them email about free webinar? I mean every aspect of this practice (even when ignoring the fact that the email went by mistake) looks like spam to me.
Still, the most disgusting part is: why should he do any homework? Its his time and he can choose to do what he wants with it.
Hi bosifounder, thank you for taking the time to create a hackernews account in response to this conversation, welcome to the community.
I think you made some interesting points in what you wrote but at the same time I feel you're missing the broader problem here.
I feel that CoFoundersLab betrayed my confidence by sharing my personal and confidential information with your company without my permission. They told me when I signed up that "We promise not to share your email with anyone else." And then without any appreciable warning or forenotice their system transmitted my personal data to your server when i clicked the "take assessment" link in my internal CoFoundersLab Profile.
Can you please explain why you feel this is an acceptable practice? I would further like to quote for you the relevant section of CoFoundersLab's Privacy Policy which states:
"The Personal Information collected by CoFoundersLab is kept completely private and confidential and is not shared with third parties, unless you submit a lead form from the Resources section of the website; in which base the contact information you provide will shared with the third-party who fulfills the specified product or service. CoFoundersLab shall make no effort to validate any information provided by you."
I absolutely did not "submit a lead from the resources section of the website" and therefore I do not understand why you or CoFoundersLab felt the sharing of my personal data was OK.
pain_perdu we're early in our partnership with CoFoundersLab and I take responsibility for the broader problem you've identified. Shahab and I will work with our tech teams to ensure that only users who complete the process get stored in the system. Had you completed the process and seen the results like thousands of other users, you may have felt differently about the process.
I totally get why you'd be frustrated not having engaged with our full process and then received communication from us. You had no idea who we were. But just know that users who do complete the process and get their results are happy with us, like the BOSI process inside CoFoundersLab and understand that we store their assessment results in case they ever need to be retrieved later. An email address and userID is all we store in order to be able to retrieve results in the future.
As with anything, you've helped us identify an opportunity for improvement. But hopefully next time you run into something like this, you'll deal directly with each company and give them ample opportunity to resolve the issue to your satisfaction - and if they don't, I'll be cheering you on as you go after them publicly.
I'm Joe, the founder/CEO of bosiDNA.com.
pain_perdu you are walking on extremely thin ice making the libelous claim that my company is a spammer. Within minutes of you contact my company about the email you received, my staff responded and within the same business day provided you the information you requested. We also apologized for the mistake in including you in an email invitation to our free webinar.
You receiving that single (ONE) email from us was a mistake. We took responsibility for it and apologized. Yet you went ahead and posted this ridiculous claim on a platform like Hacker News. Your intent is 100% malicious. It is designed to hurt CoFoundersLab and bosiDNA.com. Why? Because you received one stupid email? Come on man. It was a mistake.
Had you received multiple emails and no response when you contacted us, I can understand taking the time to make this post. At that point, you would be well intentioned to make the claim that my company is a "spammer".
I think you've crossed a line of human decency by taking our apology for a manual glitch while uploading an email list and turned it into some sort of "knight in shining armor" act to protect the world from "spammers" like my company.
Do some homework on my company - and the amazing impact we are having on entrepreneurship around the world. Read articles all over the world about us and then you and other readers of this post decide if we need to spam anyone...for anything...ever.
Let's all be productive and do things to help others - rather than try and tear things down.
intellegacy - I looked you up and see that you also took the BOSI assessment. You received the same email pain_perdu did. Please accept my apology. That was a mistake on our part internally when sending out the invitation. We have not emailed CofoundersLab users in the past. This was a goof on our part. Hope you enjoyed the process of taking the assessment - and your results. I hope we added value to your entrepreneurial journey - and will always be here to serve in any way we can.
And one last thing pain_perdu - we don't "sell coaching services". We're one of the most successful non-tech Accelerators in the US. Won several awards for economic impact and job creation in just the last 12 months. Haven't won an award for spamming yet though. But maybe someday...