Hey folks! Kevin, product manager on Flutter and Dart here.
The layoffs were decided AT LEAST a couple of layers above our team and affected a LOT of teams. (I think I can say that). Lots of good folks got bad news and lots of great projects lost people. Flutter and Dart were not affected any more or less that others. It was a tough day...tough week.
It was crazy to be seeing demos and new things working and discussions about new customers the same day we lost colleagues and friends.
We're sad, but still cranking hard on I/O and beyond.
We know ya'll care SO MUCH about the project and the team and the awesome ecosystem we've built together.
Reddit post from Project Manager is pretty pointless. If Google decides to get rid of Flutter, they are not going to tell Kevin before hand, they are likely not even going to tell Kevin boss before hand. Stadia employees were swearing up and down that Stadia was full steam ahead despite layoffs until it wasn't. When it happened, it was clear from all Twitter posting that no one except really high up Google Executives knew Stadia shutdown was coming and they didn't tell anyone.
It does help. Words mean less than action. If random people are killed from a division due to decisions "many layers above" it means that division is really not valued. Google will kill off flutter in the future. One should not be building long term apps on it. React native and react luckily have been taken over by the open source community and will live long. Shame though, I really liked flutter. Fuck Google.
Not always, if Google Cloud CEO came out and said "We are invested in Flutter", I'd give it more weight since he has real power at Google.
I'm just saying Kevin statement is meaningless. If you look at Google actions before, they do not slowly remove support from things and announce it. They silently layoff, go quiet then BAM, X is gone without warning and little time to deal.
Doom and gloom comes from everyone who has followed Google history. Google does not do what I call "Enterprise orderly shutdown of services" which is decrease releases/features, announce depreciation, give shutdown date and shutdown. They just do layoffs, radio silence and BAM, SHUTDOWN!
Building anything on top of Google tech that isn't Android or GMail is a huge risk, and the fact that the higher-ups will just randomly decide to fire large parts of teams confirms that caution is the right approach.
Oh, I was looking at the blog site but assumed it’s the main page because I got there by clicking the logo and it had buttons like “download thunderbird”… my bad
> Nope. I meant departments. The T10 programs handle CS admissions at the College (Engineering) and Department level.
Stanford at least doesn't for undergrads. Admissions is handled at the university level and you're encouraged not to even declare a major (CS included) until after your freshman year when you've had a chance to explore options for a major.
Stanford is a more traditional LAC though, so falls under your last paragraph.
Aren't those just iframes, which is effectively just youtube loading inside an existing web page instead of its own tab. I would assume first party cookies would work just fine for this.
Nope, an iframe on an unrelated site is exactly what turns it into a third party cookie. (The user and the site they're visiting are the first two parties; the embedded site is the third party.)
Put another way, an ad iframe loading a tracking (identity) cookie is indistinguishable from a YouTube iframe loading a login (identity) cookie.
i still don't follow. i guess my point is, when an embedded video loads for me, youtube still knows that it's me. it gives me the same recommended videos i'd get if i were on youtube.com directly. so i assume since i pay for premium, it'd also skip ads on embedded videos too. i wouldnt know because i use ublock.
> when an embedded video loads for me, youtube still knows that it's me
If/when third party cookie blocking is fully deployed, this won't be true. Your browser won't send YouTube's session cookie to YouTube when it's loaded in an iframe on an unrelated site, so YouTube won't know you're a premium user.
Ah, looks like this is correct, at least as of 2022:
> Even though such classes of shares were unusual in the tech industry, Brin and Page decided to copy the structure. In the case of Google (now Alphabet), A shares carry one vote, while B shares each carry 10 votes. Brin and Page between them own 51 percent of those B shares, giving them joint control of the company, even though they own less than 12 percent of its total shares.
Per the article, they purposefully rolled back suppression of spammy results:
> In the March 2019 core update to search, which happened about a week before the end of the code yellow, was expected to be “one of the largest updates to search in a very long time. Yet when it launched, many found that the update mostly rolled back changes, and traffic was increasing to sites that had previously been suppressed by Google Search’s “Penguin” update from 2012 that specifically targeted spammy search results, as well as those hit by an update from an August 1, 2018, a few months after Gomes became Head of Search.
It said that he was one of the protestors that gathered outside the offices. It said that there are groups protesting outside and inside the offices. I imagine the latter group are all current employees.
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Hey folks! Kevin, product manager on Flutter and Dart here.
The layoffs were decided AT LEAST a couple of layers above our team and affected a LOT of teams. (I think I can say that). Lots of good folks got bad news and lots of great projects lost people. Flutter and Dart were not affected any more or less that others. It was a tough day...tough week.
It was crazy to be seeing demos and new things working and discussions about new customers the same day we lost colleagues and friends.
We're sad, but still cranking hard on I/O and beyond.
We know ya'll care SO MUCH about the project and the team and the awesome ecosystem we've built together.
You're nervous. I get it. We get it.
You're betting on Flutter and Dart.
So am I. So is Google.