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Human | AI toggle is cool.

Obligatory: information-dense format is valuable for humans too! But the entire Internet is propped up by ads so seems we can't have nice things.


I was pleasantly surprised by this toggle too, very neat.

I used to really have a problem understanding why people hold peace as some ideal. It's not that i want violence, it's that if i expand on the idea of peace, I always end at "nothing". Like the idea of heaven, it's pure peace, it's… the lack of all these challenges and struggles and pains on so on. it's nothing! How does that even make sense to strive for a state of nothingness?!

This bothered me for so long until at some point, I just grew up. Peace is not nothing in the sense of null. It's nothing more in the sense of empty. I got this from some buddhist writing: emptiness is not the same as nothingness.

We are vessels and such. I found this tremendously helpful. Peace is like… space for being.

And so simple happiness, I'd say is not rudimentary, it's more like essential? The more I think on it, it's hard not to see the "core" happiness-es as quite profound. Like happy to exist. To experience each sense and such. I'd say that's quite amazing to get to that level of happiness. and we wouldn't call that "complex" happiness?


I'm 1.5 minutes in and I already learned to purge cold water from the pipes before running the dishwasher. Assuming this is evidence based and true, I mean come on! Is it really so alarming to see someone deep dive hard and do the work to mass educate the public?

It seems like it would be trivial for the machine to pump water in, turn on the heating element, and wait until it reaches optimum temperature before beginning the cycle.

My understanding is that energy efficiency requirements prevent this. Dishwashers have a fixed energy budget they are allowed to expend, which may not be enough to heat cold tap water up to the optimal cleaning temp.

So instead it pulls in hot water, but not for long enough to purge the line, so all the 140F water it pulls from the water heater sits in pipes till it cools off.

That’s pretty wild, since the energy needed to get it up to temp would still need to be expended on the water heater side. There are no real energy efficiency gains unless they can somehow engineer an effective cold water cleaning.

Many hot water heaters use gas which may be cheaper than resistive heating depending on where you live. Additionally, there are now water heaters that use a heat pump which will be more efficient than either.

And of course they'll be setups that use solar heating or are programmed to heat by time of day.

This is all down in the weeds though because a dishwasher does not use very much water.


there is typically only 1 program that is used for labeling (of overall efficiency to achieve appropriate cleanness level). my manual specifies which one it is. it takes 3 hours. there is also fast&furious program that is less efficient but takes 1 hour

They do in some markets and don't in others. In particular, in USA, regular 110v circuits don't carry enough power for water heating.

It's not a matter of power, but energy. It may take it twice as long as a 220v circuit, but when it's an unattended appliance that doesn't really matter. Per cycle they use about a gallon of water (3-4 per load total). Going from 70F to 140F requires 170Wh for a gallon of water. So if you run it at 1000W it takes 10 minutes.

This is what most (all?) of machines do. Heat water when they need hot water

Read the manual of your washer. I’m willing to bet it instructs you to run the tap until it’s hot before you start the dishwasher. This is common for American dishwashers, because they can’t get the water hot enough, fast enough, for the prewash cycle

it doesn't.

i also went to american lg website and checked manual of cheapest dishwasher that they have. it doesn't instruct to run water either. it says that if water is not hot enough cycle will run longer.

anticipating comments that LG is not american enough, i went to GE and checked manual of cheapest (349) dishwasher. it doesn't instruct to run tap either. it does say just like LG that if water not hot enough, cycles that use hot water will take more time (because water needs to be heated)


In the video he mentions that the machines heat for a set time and not for a target temperature. So as majority of machines (in US market) are meant for hot water input. Then if you feed cold water they don't heat it enough

depends very much on where you are, unfortunately. in USA, this is definitely not the case, they're almost all incredibly dumb. especially the cheapest-possible models that most renters are forced to use (and renters account for about a third of all households).

as a concrete example, the video has a section in it where he shows that his doesn't so any sensing - hot or cold water have exactly the same timing on the heater's use (and resulting water temperature graphs).

so like. I agree with you that it should be true, it's simple and cheap to implement and it obviously works better. unfortunately it's not a sane reality for tens (hundreds?) of millions of people.


i am in usa. rented few times here. both in apartment complexes and houses.

cheapest GE dishwasher that i found now - $349 heats water. of course, for video he could go and find some ancient dishwasher that doesn't heat water just to make a point (or maybe he has a broken one ? ), but i think it will be outlier today.


many (vast majority I've seen) have a heater, but won't heat the water sufficiently for the pre-wash cycle from cold. or, frequently, the second / wash cycle, unless you set it to a high temp mode, and even then it's questionable / often just a timer and not thermometer-based.

check your user manual. huge numbers of them tell you to run your nearby tap until it's hot before starting a cycle because of this exact reason. this is also part of the video, and it has been true for literally every washer I've lived with (I read essentially all manuals), including the "good" ones.


pre-wash cycle meant to remove chunks of food/scraps. not to wash. my dishwasher doesn't bother to heat water for it. but for main wash cycle it heats water. i don't think i ever used dishwasher (american, eu, asian or turkish brands. some of them in country where they are hooked up to cold water) that bothered to heat water for pre-wash cycle. i think it's a feature and not a bug.

my dishwasher manual doesn't say to run tap. in fact it says "The dishwasher can be connected to a hot water supply for further economies. If the water is heated by for example, solar panels, this would be energy efficient. However, if your water is heated by electricity we would recommend connection to cold water. "

i also went to american lg website and checked manual of cheapest dishwasher that they have. it doesn't instruct to run water either. it says that if water is not hot enough cycle will run longer.

anticipating comments that LG is not american enough, i went to GE and checked manual of cheapest (349) dishwasher. it doesn't instruct to run tap either. it does say just like LG that if water not hot enough, cycles that use hot water will take more time (because water needs to be heated)


if they're finally changing, I'm thrilled - maybe I'll have one in a decade :) thermocouples are so dirt cheap that it's ridiculous it was ever a thing.

I like your idea of robust happiness and it being robust against comparison.

What's interesting to me is how all of it is true. You were and are in an elite tier, the measure is purely how we care to slice it.

Reminds me of the aphorism "whether you think you can or can't, you're right." I find this saying really insightful and true. Others may find it flippant and void of any meaning.

The sports analogy of what you shared is: "there are levels to this". At any given level-child, minor, high-school, college, division of college, semi-pro, overseas, pro, olympian, elite-pro, champion- it seems legitimate that the praise is bound to the context.

And getting to the next level requires more growth and effort to think it's even possible. Maybe you won't, but whether you think you can or can't...

Just some thoughts.


A great number of people believe they can when they can’t, the reverse is less frequent. Which is likely the outgrowth of saying to anyone “you can do it” being much easier and safer than a more realistic assessment.

Instead I like to say “that will be a lot of work” which is generally true, can help someone succeed by focusing on something productive, and even failure at the given goal often results in something positive. Hard work simply pays better dividends than dreaming about what comes after success.


Very true. Many comments in this overall post arrive at the nuanced stance that it's the effort that is key to focus on and relate. Everything else there is no way to connect to causality.

I want to add that "belief" in yourself, though as you say is rather a biased pathway, is still to me so essential and valuable. Because it is the thing that in some socioeconomic circles is taken for granted and in others is completely assumed in the reverse. So from a humanist perspective I'd rather people fall short of their dream than to never even be able to dream at all.

I guess I am saying it is the lived experience that counts. If you are blissfully naive then is it a better life? iono maybe! but that's reminds me of beautiful animals. And the difference between humans and animals, so far as we come to believe, is that we can choose to suffer. and understand happiness and in that be so utterly unhappy. hah


This gets to the heart of why visualization works. When you’re conscious mind visualizes outcomes, around say work or sport performance or really anything, your subconscious mind can’t differentiate it from reality; the better you are at visualizing the harder it is for your subconscious mind to tell this. It is why visualization is such a powerful performance technique. Negative self talk is really bad for you.

This is more or less the basis of a lot of western esotericism and ceremonial magick. Consider it a weaponization of the placebo effect, or the closest thing to creatio ex nihilo one can personally experience. Dialogue with the purveyor of negative self-talk is another modality in this space.

The coolest thing about the placebo effect is that it works even if you know it’s a placebo so the more you believe in science the more you can pick some random bs and be like “This will help me because I think it will, and the placebo effect is real” And it will actually. fkn. work.

Your brain is just like: okay, it works, the conscious mind knows what it is talking about. <performs it works hormonal and mental response> lol

Yes. it's the point of the article.

maybe i'm misunderstanding the "why run anything on my machine" part. is the container on the machine? isn't that running things on your machine?

is he just saying always run your code in a container?


> is the container on the machine?

> is he just saying always run your code in a container?

yes

> isn't that running things on your machine?

in this context where they're explicitly contrasted, it isn't running things "directly on my machine"


it annoys me that people fully automate things like type checkers and linting into post commit or worse entirely outsourced to CI.

Because it means the hygiene is thrown over the fence in a post commit manner.

AI makes this worse because they also run them "over the fence".

However you run it, i want a human to hold accountability for the mainline committed code.


I run linters like eslint on my machine inside a container. This reduces attack surface.

How does this throw hygiene over the fence?


Yes in a sibling reply, i was able to better understand your comment to mean "run stuff on my machine in a container"

Why do you feel the need to talk about how people talk?

And now you got me doing it lol. It's just something to do. we're all doing it. chill.

and now you're stuck cuz if you respond to me, well is it jut an inferiority complex, need to be right?


I think I already provided that context. I dont understand why someone would talk this way because it feels like something that would satisfy the ego of a toddler. And be ingratiating at best to a well-adjusted adult. I would feel similarly if someone pinched my cheeks and said "aw arent you just a wittle cutesy-wootsy." Yet I see it used without any meaning of offense.

Is it a need to be special? Do you get this overly flattering language in cultures where individualism isnt so pronounced?


After thinking about it charitably, it seems like you're asking "why are people different?" Are they being different because they want to convey "being different".

Maybe. But also, people are different because people are different. There's variance. Variance in the Universe is a good thing. I'm no physicist so I'm going to get this some degree of wrong but I'm pretty sure variance (of time/space) is pretty much the definition of reality.

The language topic is good too. English does have a ton of words and so it's baked in the language to be flowery, "extra" if you will. Yeah, different languages, also cool.


why do people feel like they need the last word? it feels like something that would satisfy the ego of a toddler.

Im responding to his question. Now I'm responding to your question. It's not fair to characterize that as "getting the last word." Don't you think?

Everything you said is true. It doesn't refute that you should sell the 10% though. You're describing commerce.

not getting it.


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