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You’d almost think it’s a prototype!


This will not happen. If Apple complies, it complies. They can’t blame Apple for not following a random EU directive in jurisdictions outside of the EU to begin with. They’re even different legal entities. The EU is not going to do anything about this at all and if they try: it will be blocked. I’ll check back here in 6 months to see how this aged.


Yeah or people in the US just install something other than Firefox and call it a day when Mozilla decides to do that.


That’s also why the EU probably won’t get more strict than this. The climate is very bad for tech companies with increasingly vague and weird laws (that mostly nobody asked for I might add) and this is starting to piss some countries off as they see other continents starting to excel and we can’t catch up due to such insane amounts of red tape.


That’s not how international laws and customs work. Besides, be careful what you wish for since if they’d follow that line of thought you’re in for a 20-25% tax plus an import fee for importing electronic devices from a different jurisdiction. (Also, the non-compliancy would be your doing as importer; not Apple’s.)


3.) that’s not exactly true. Currently, you can choose for an open system or a walled garden in which you can’t be de facto blackmailed in to leaving the walled garden. With this so called freedom of choice you mention, I am no longer able to choose for a true walled garden. If I rely on certain apps that are moved to their own store, I am forced to go there and break the walled garden. Ergo: my choice is taken away from me. For completely arbitrary reasons.

As it was you had choices as a consumer; open, closed - whatever you want. But the thing I deliberately want to choose for is now taken away from me through one of the worst and most unfair business laws I’ve ever seen, that only does harm to the majority of consumers whose choice is taken away and whose privacy and safety is being weakened to destroyed. But “they have a choice to stay in their walled garden” (they just can’t use their phone the way they want and were always used to anymore if they do, but we don’t mention that part and we don’t care those millions of people are getting royally screwed over).

You know, true choice could’ve been achieved if the EU had made a fair law. They didn’t and now we as consumers are going to pay a very heavy price.


I should point out that even with android being way more open, big apps are on the playstore


Yeah it doesn’t want that, but annoyingly if you disable it on your WiFi (you can per network); it keeps re-enabling itself. F-ing annoying.


A part of this really stands out to me. The new privacy policy associated with this states that Apple collects device identifiers, your Apple ID and the current (GPS-)location of your device and shares this: A.) with Apple to “develop new fraud prevention measures” B.) with your “payment network” (read: your bank).

There is no option to opt-out of this, the privacy policy states that if you do not wish for Apple to collect this data and share it with your bank that you “must use another card”. In other words: you need to participate and agree to sharing this data with your bank or you can no longer use Apple Pay.

Am I the only one that thinks this is absolutely insane and goes hard against Apple’s promise for privacy? Why on earth would you give the bank all that information including the device location with no way to opt out? I also wonder if this sudden one-sided change is even legal under the GDPR considering Apple did not solicit any permission but simply gave a push notification stating “enhanced fraud protection” has now been enabled and that for any payment this data is now collected by Apple and subsequently shared with the bank.


Telegram is horrendously insecure, it’s equal to or probably even worse than Facebook Messenger. It should be avoided like the plague by anyone seeking strong privacy protection.


Nasty surprise this one. I don’t mind paying for a good app, but for software that got lots of donations to keep it opensource: switching to CS with a €24 fee is really steep and feels like nothing but greed and screwing donators over.


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