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Does anyone have any advice for someone that is curious about moving from Google to LibreOffice? I work in a collaborative environment where everyone immediately having access to the same data on different environments (including mobile) is desirable.


Collabora Online may be what you are looking for. It's commercial, but it is LibreOffice (Collabora is a major contributor to LibreOffice). https://www.collaboraonline.com/writer/

There is plain LibreOffice Online, but it is apparently frozen at the moment: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/


I used both, LibreOffice calc for heavier data analysis than Google Sheets can handle. Google can also read LibreOffice's file formats easily.


Check out the onlyoffice links above for a remote floss alternative.


I don't agree with puritanical laws like this, but I do believe that the quantity and quality of porn consumed in the US constitutes a non-trivial public mental health crisis, and I hope that this will drive into people the serious risks of taking your dopamine receptors for constant, convenient, quick rides that scratch an itch without providing the experience of genuinely connecting with another living, breathing human being that cares.

Real, vulnerable connection can provide meaning in a way that manufactured fast porn can never give, and I believe that connection can be an important aspect of self actualization towards a meaningful existence.

I'm not claiming that rare, conscious consumption of pornography can't be integrated into a healthy, fulfilled life, but that the way it's mindlessly consumed by so many is keeping us from that fulfilled life.


Why do you think porn is a replacement for a relationship? A relationship is about a lot more than just sex. And real sex is way better than masturbation. Even when I'm between relationships I need that too (and pay for it in those cases). Porn is just a minor passtime. A relationship affects every aspect of your life.


> and pay for it in those cases

Ps: I see this got flagged but just wanted to clarify that I'm in Europe and this is legal where I live (unlike in most US states I believe).

I just think paying for it is a lot more fair than trying to get random girls in bed for a one night stand like a lot of guys do. I don't really court someone unless I have a serious interest in the person, not just their body.

But my point was that porn doesn't displace relationships and not even the need for real sex.


A relationship is hard to find, cultivate, and maintain. It's sort of analogous to a healthy diet. People choose junk food over healthy food options for convenience/cheap thrills even if there's obvious benefits to healthy diets, and people choose porn over genuine human connection.


what are your data points about porn consumption of other people?


Black box of carbon or a black box of silicon.


Death is just the name we give to the moment when the condensed energy that is moving this system that calls itself a body breaks down into a temporarily simpler state.

At some point I'll get caught up in some whirlpool of energy and find myself crawling out of some uterus again as I have time and time again for all of eternity.

Yippee.


So you define yourself as energy? Not your conscience? Because your conscience and sense of self is what most people would describe as gone when you die, and that's where the fear comes from. Energy has no feelings, no conscience, no self...


> So you define yourself as energy? Not your conscience?

No division.

> Energy has no feelings, no conscience, no self

Where did you get that idea?


> Energy has no feelings, no conscience, no self

> Where did you get that idea?

It is not an idea that one needs to have given to them. It is the simple conclusion of known physics. However, the claim that "energy has consciousness" is a non-obvious idea, which can't be derived from the evidence and mathematics we use to describe the universe. It should be supported if you believe it. It would be an important learning about the universe. That, or you're redefining "energy" as "any system that contains energy," (including a human being, which very few would define as "pure energy").

Is there any meaning to this position you're taking? Does it support predictions about the world? Does it change how you think about the world?


Even if that is true, the actual you is just as assuredly dead.


"Actual me"?

I'm the sea of energy from which all life and death springs from. We all live and die in it.


Is that what you signed on your driver's license?


Bubbling and flickering like a candle in and out of the background consciousness of existence.


Granted, individuals will only receive ~15% of their original claim, the increase in value over time will make it worth it for many.


People lose their shirts in crypto because they lose it, trade it, and sell too soon.

The only proven way to make a killing in crypto is to be physically prevented from losing it, trading it, or selling it for ten years.


They only lose their shirts because its speculative gambling... They are scared the same way the person betting on red is.


You're describing anybody investing in anything (except those who cheat).


I like to distinguish investing from speculating. Investing is putting money into a business which actually makes money. Speculating is buying something because you think the price will go up.


investing is not just that. its putting money where you expect the business to make MORE money in the future. if they dont, you dont make money in the end.


It’s also not just that! theres no requirement for a business to be involved for it to be an investment (e.g Gov bonds)


sure. But when talking about stocks which is usually one of the main investment devices, its business related.


If the price does go up, did it "actually make money"?


Not necessarily.


> The only proven way to make a killing in crypto is to be physically prevented from losing it, trading it, or selling it for ten years.

Which is very well known in the crypto world with these two mantras:

    - "Not your keys, not your coins" (meaning one shouldn't trust anyone)

    - "HODL"   (aka "hold on to your coins")


The fear of losing is greater than the desire to win! So people trade or sell before a ten years timeframe.


This only reads that way looking back over a raising value. Look at a stock that goes to 0 and call the people that sold early fearful of losing,


When the stock/crypto goes up 100% people will gladly take their profits and go on with their lives, instead of waiting for even bigger profits.

When the stocks starts its fall towards 0 people will do incredible mental gymnastics, clinging to any shred of hope that things will turn around and they will revert their losses, so it takes them much more time to get out of the bad investment.


This is true in crypto, but not true in Bitcoin


And when crypto goes to 0?


Bitcoin will never go to $0 because if it ever got to $1 I'd buy all 21 million of them. And there are lots of people like me.


Not if the algorithm is cracked and the supply of bitcoin increases. It’s possible for bitcoin to go to zero. Shouldn’t happen, but it can.


The supply wouldn’t even be increasable if SHA256 is cracked


What is the most likely scenario in which you see Bitcoin changing hands for ~0 value, or I suppose not changing hands?


I transfer it to people on the slowest method for 1st borns baby shower. I used it on furniture at Overstock.com while they allowed it. I gamble with it. I have donated with it.

For me and probably many others, when expediency isn't an issue, BTC works great.


People want to get real money out of it.


It is far far too late to get paid. Several deadlines have passed.


Wrong. Look at Self-Approved Claims here: https://claims.mtgox.com/faq


Doesn't that page say the deadline for those claims was in 2019 (not even to be submitted, but to contest it if you're refused)?


This is really cool! Having a lot of fun with it


So are these games actually playable, or is it generating a GIF of a theoretical game given a list of keyboard "inputs" that would take place?

I'm wondering if it's generating a runnable binary, or just a video.


> Similar to Sora, Genie's creators call it a "world model," but unlike Sora, it's an "actionable-controllable world model.

This is talking about 2D platformer games and saying that the world model is actionable-controllable. I wouldnt be surprised if it's just a 2D platformer level where you can browse it WASD and maybe hit the walls with some pretend character.

People who started playing games during covid will probably think this is groundbreaking.

(we have already had this for a few decades, it's called "procedurally generated levels")


No not playable

> it generating a GIF of a theoretical game given a list of keyboard "inputs"

Yes. At least it’s trying to.


Usually an argument from authority doesn't hold any weight, but come on.

It's their dad


Yes. The burden is proof is supposed to be on the person making a claim that breaks the known pattern.

We can think of consciousness in it's most simple terms as an experience of any number of bits of data.

If we are to accept that we ourselves have experiences, which we must lest we go down a fun pathway to madness (that I highly recommend for those excited by the prospect of existential crises), then there is no reason to accept that "lower" life forms do not also have experiences.

This chain of reasoning follows down, down, down, into what we may think to be simpler and simpler experiences of being. Down to the insects, and then the microbes.

There comes a point where whether something is alive or not becomes more about its ability to create cogent copies of itself, which certainly does not feel like a requirement of having an experience.

Beyond that lies the Earth, the wind, the rain, the basic elements our ancestors have respected and reverred for millenia in societies that did not invent the patriarchal dichotomy between subject and object that teaches us the unfounded "fact" that there are some things called "objects" which have no experience of reality, that we the "subjects" may control entirely.

Get deeper into intuitive practices, and one may have experiences of interacting with so called "objects" in ways that suggest a deep union between subject and object.

A union that precludes the separation our hectic monkey minds have been taught.

It is as if every particle of this universe is "alive" in its own writhing way, at different scales. All feeling the subtle vibrations of others.

The burden of proof is on those that say that consciousness "stops" at some point and the entity becomes an object, yet a mechanism has never been found.

The belief in fully unconscious objects, is then, faith based.

The "hard" problem of consciousness is only a problem when you want it to be.


I believe in the beginning of A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawkings, he mentions a similar problem where it's equally difficult to imagine a universe that always exists as a universe that was created by "something" that always existed.

I'm sure I'm butchering something about this interpretation in the decades since I've read it.

My point is this seems to be a similar problem where it's equally difficult to imagine that consciousness is something that arises from sufficiently complex systems, as it is to imagine its inherent to all systems.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I'm not certain you're right. I can see it either way.


> We can think of consciousness in it's most simple terms as an experience of any number of bits of data.

If you interpret the word that way, it becomes completely uninteresting and, as you explore, makes us no different from some germ or collection of molecules.


And is this such an issue? Does the world have to be a fancy lights show in order to be palatable? Isn't there enough wonder in the galaxies and the specks of dust, do we really to invent the almighty to make humans feel... special? because I guess that's what it all is, fragile egos can't take being anything less than The Chosen. Which explains also religious wars - this town is not big enough for two chosen.


I just meant that "experiencing bits of data" is a meaningless description of human consciousness, not that human consciousness is a divine phenomenon.


That's only true if the supremacy of your self and your conscious experience is the lens through which you find things interesting. It's also kind of reductive.

We are a collection of germs and molecules. We share a lot of commonalities with the units we are composed of. That doesn't make us "no different" than them, when taken as a whole. It certainly doesn't have to make us or the world uninteresting.


Everyone who does serious work on consciousness defines it that way.

It's only naive, over-confident people jumping into conversations they don't understand who define it as something else.

We can also talk about cognitive abilities, sentience, etc., but these are distinct concepts from consciousness and it's extremely valuable to maintain that distinction if you want to have productive discussions.


> Everyone who does serious work on consciousness defines it that way.

What? As "experiencing bits of data"? That's ridiculous, a stone experiences bits of data as scratches on its surface. You could say that it "experiences its environment", but that's semantics and has almost nothing to do with human consciousness - or at least with the interesting parts of it.


Experience as phenomenological subjective experience. I.e., to experience "the color yellow" rather than just the physiochemical processes associated with incidence of photons of a particular wavelength, or "sour" rather than just interacting with certain kinds of acids.

Philosophy of mind scholars have been very consistent about this for the longest time. I would recommend reading some of the literature they have produced to become more acquainted.

However "interesting parts of human consciousness" as you put it are still outside the realm of consciousness per se, and can be more adequately described as "cognition", "awareness", "agency", "sentience", etc. Each concept is distinct (but related) from the others and it's unproductive at this point in our collective development of theory and study to lump them all under a single umbrella term.

Consciousness is a relatively boring question when limited to this definition, but that just means you need to change your language to remain comprehensible, not to redefine words that already have very precise meanings.

I can give you my personal thoughts on the matter, they may align more closely to yours than you may initially assume. As a quick note, complex systems are interesting primarily because they encode features of their environment in their physical makeup, kind of like your rock example. Rocks can't really "do" anything with that information except roll and crack differently than if they didn't have those scratches, but when you really drill down into this phenomenon, there's no bright line between the encoding of scratches on rock surfaces and slightly more complicated systems like river deltas changing the path of water in response to upstream flows (a kind of analog computer encoding the history of its "experiences") or even more complicated systems like lineages of organisms encoding their experiences in DNA via natural selection based on the history of its (the lineage -- not each individual organism) interaction with its 4D environment. None of this really has anything to say about what rocks or river deltas or organisms or whole lineages are experiencing according to the definition of consciousness above, and it seems impossible to access any kind of scientific evidence one way or the other, which is most of the reason that scholars (Chalmers) came up with the "hard problem of consciousness" to at least acknowledge and refine the difficult questions still facing us in this field of study.


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