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Make him do some level design, for example he can create Doom levels.

It can also be paper/board games if he is into it.

He could make some rules variations to an existing game.

Nothing alarming here.

If he has peoples to play with, create a story, add some rules, play it with the body or lego or whatever.


That is already an issue with technological progress. Peoples protesting because machines are more efficient and removing jobs. The issue being the profit of increased tech not being shared correctly among humanity.

This issue has not been solved. I am glad there are other peoples becoming aware of it with the rise of IA.


Work and salaries ? Like from their own pocket ? No. That is the business money. Wasted. Time, attention, of peoples wasted.

That is the same absurd logic as for not to replace low qualified human physical work by machines (self checkout in supermarket).

Having less jobs due to technology or less stupid work should be seen as good for humanity.

Perhaps, instead, of imagining some stupid jobs and occupation, so peoples can be paid and survive. We coul reduce the total workhours of working people, so that senseful work would employ more peoples. And with no changes to the salary ofc.

I am not so good with english, so let me rephrase it. What would happen to humanity if 90 % went jobless because -let's imagine- robots and IA would efficientely replace us. Would 90 % be condemned to die in the cold when there is abondance ? Because they have no job and a 0.00001 % "owns" the robots ?

Our current system cannot work with abondance.


> Work and salaries ? Like from their own pocket ? No. That is the business money. Wasted. Time, attention, of peoples wasted.

It actually blows me away sometimes the willingness people w/i companies have to just spend money that isn't theirs.

It's not even the calculation of build vs buy, they'll spend exorbitant amounts of money for nothing in particular. It makes me understand the stereotypical budget constraints, because without them people would just waste money left and right.


Eventually, one comes to realize that everyone's spending money that isn't theirs. Including the CEO and the owners, who are spending the money invested by people who expect returns.


sure, but there's a lack of responsibility there that amazes me.


Depends on if you ever took outside money I guess :-)


The only organization that doesn't take outside money is the federal government, and they take the consent of the people to rule instead (quite a bit more valuable).


Oh that’s not true at all. Hudson River Trading, for instance, has never taken outside money and has no outside investors, yet makes billions in profit every year. There are likewise many fully private companies that have no investors, debt, or unaffiliated shareholders. Goldman Sachs was a partnership until the mid 1990’s. Etc.


Self-checkout is still low qualified human work. It's just done for free by the customers.


The cashier has three jobs:

- Prevent theft

- Keep track of what's specifically been sold, to help determine re-ordering schedules

- Sometimes, put things in bags. Some stores just ask the customer to do this even if they have a cashier.

The thing about physically moving products over a barcode scanner is only for those first two purposes. Mostly the first -- if theft weren't an issue, it would be cheaper to just do manual inventory more frequently.

The customer is not preventing theft. They (mostly) aren't stealing, but they also aren't deterring anyone from stealing. The lone employee for the eight self-checkout kiosks is doing that -- with the help of scales, cameras, and (these days) a little bit of AI.


Much the same as pushing shopping carts.


Not free if you "miss" scanning a few items.

Not that I'm endorsing that of course. But if you're going to saddle me with work you don't want to pay people to do, without training and without compensation and I happen to make a mistake... well. Guess that was a bad move on your part.


The obvious benefit to the customer is that they are not stuck in a queue. If you have portable scanners for customers (eg, via an app), all items can already be scanned on the fly, speeding up things even more. Moreover, self-checkout registers take less space - roughly doubling the number of available registers. Which, again, increases throughput and reduces latency.

Less obvious benefits to the customer: you can have one employee oversee multiple registers, instead of only 1. So less employees needed, so prices can go down. Customers can more easily take distancing measures themselves, as long as there isn't a queue for self-checkout.

But sure, some asshat may forget or "forget" to scan something. That happens with regular registers as well, but is more likely to be caught. And if it isn't: lucky for the asshat, less so gor the other customers - they will end up paying for the store's losses.


> The obvious benefit to the customer is that they are not stuck in a queue. If you have portable scanners for customers (eg, via an app), all items can already be scanned on the fly, speeding up things even more.

I have never in my entire life used an arrangement like that. I've only used the ones where they have a computerized terminal with a scale and conveyor belt, basically a checkout with the computer turned backwards, along with a computer-illiterate person manning between 4 and 6 of those resolving all the dumb problems they have.

> increases throughput and reduces latency.

Until the stupid scale stops working and you need to wait for one employee manning six of the things to come over and tell the stupid computer that your stupid eggs are in fact on the stupid scale.

Like, I can't overemphasize how bad these can get. If you're using the scale as a theft-deterrent, it doesn't work. Never in my life has the register person actually looked at what I'm bagging to see if it's correct. They would probably catch it if I ring up a 52" OLED TV as 16 pounds of avocados, but like, if I ring up organic avocados as regular ones? They're never gonna see that, and even if they did I doubt most would even care enough to do something about it given the wage they're making.

If your argument is instead efficiency, the things brutalize that too because so many purchases in an average grocery store are going to cause problems, things like cigarettes need to be kept in cases, things like alcohol require ID verification (which I've also never ever been carded at a self checkout!), some medications do too, and their constant problems and glitches require an attendant to resolve, while adding to customer frustration in general. And I just don't even try to use coupons at them, that's a complete fucking nightmare.

If your argument is instead cost cutting, everything at my grocery store is more expensive than it was 3 years ago, and it's basically all self checkouts now minus the pharmacy counter. So that clearly didn't pan the fuck out. Either that or all the theft it's now trivial to do is eating into their margins, who's to say.

Like I genuinely am fine with these, when they're well maintained and work. The ones at Home Depot come to mind; they don't use the stupid scale at all, they have nice, big displays the attendants seem better trained than most, and they use wireless scanners which makes the whole process a whole lot less of a pain in the ass. But when they're put in by some cut-rate business barely making margins? God damn do they suck.


> I have never in my entire life used an arrangement like that.

It's become the norm around here: pick up a dedicated scanner at the entrance, scan while you go, at cash register, return scanner in a reader that extracts all necessary info. Newest gimmick is you don't need the store's dedicated scanner, but can use an app from your phone.

Bonus I didn't foresee: no more need to ask an employee "how much is this?" - just scan. This also shows you if your personal discount applies (if the store does personal discounts).

> Until the stupid scale stops working I think that's part of why they went with on-the-fly scanning. It's one thing to detect a postcard on an empty scale, quite another on a scale with a few 2L bottles of soda. Your example with eggs is also perfect: not that heavy, all but guaranteed to be last on the scale. Here, I think most stores switched from scales to doing random checks (where they scan 3-5 items).


What will happen is that either the 0.01% will order the robots to kill the 99%, or the 99% will go out and kill the 0.01% and whoever else is near them.

Or we could reform our system so it can cope with abundance. It's perfectly well known how to do it, and it helps creating that abundance too. But the 0.01% seems completely decided to fight against this to their death, so I'm not holding my breath.


I agree with you. What come to my mind, is that GPT using private data to learn, if given back to (any) customer, you would have an indirect "open source everything".


Maybe it depicts a part of this galaxy history. I like to believe that work of art that touches us, stay in our memory, has some truth into it that fascinate us.

We are strongly led to believe we are alone in the universe, and that we are the first human like specie in the whole universe and our solar system to ever have existed. Believing otherwise is pure heresy. What is left for us to contact part of the world that we know exist but that "can't be real because that would be heresy" ?

Science-fiction, fantasy.


> ' Just ask ChatGPT '

Yeah I heard that from coworkers. Lazy mind, yes. Read the doc, look one example, check one stackoverflow link and you will know how you make a caroussel UI component...

And please do not use it to try understanding some logic in your codebase. Try even less giving him a small snippet of the codebase, thinking it will magically understand what it does and correctly imagine what all the missing related code of snippet is and does. ( ! )

Most of the time I just wanna scream "use you brain". By the time he wrote his first sentence to the IA, I've resolved the issue, or at least have a clue. It is really infuriating because what more is that ChatGPT need a -minimum- precise request to be expected to give a useful response. When the request from the user is blatantly inprecise kinda like "help, thing doesn't work", I just feel bad for the IA having to deal with terrible communication, and for myself for having to deal with that coworker. Thanksfully when I am the one being asked help, I know the project, can look into the code, and coworkers can show me the issue instead of failing to explain it.

Yeah that is why I like programming, computers only accept precise communication, it is not "move that div on the left" but "move div by id X to the left of itself" 120px over 200ms with a linear speed".

Only once ChatGPT did better than my mind or google : someone was searching the name of a bank starting wirh the letter "o".

Your statement is correct, google replace a lot of my memory, maybe someone could call me lazy too.

Maybe ChatGPT will have his use for me one day.


Thinking about banning the forum instead of trying understand the stories, the pain, how we could help is stupid.

I feel like again "peoples" wabt to remove the red flare instead of going for the root cause. Because it is much easier. This is very present for mental health. Ignore the cause, just fet some surgery and a lot of medicine until it get worse and you die. Change you way of living, explore past traumas, question your strongest beliefs ? Hell no. Better ban a forum and call it fixed.


"Mental illness" is also a problem in France.

I recommend you check out reddit r/LateStageCapitalism .

There is so much to be said about how fuck up our world is, I don't wanna start or i'll write a brick.

Elon Musk said recently that school is a joke, and that he do home schooling. Well, he is not the first one to have said it, but he is damn right. Idriss Aberkane has some very good conferences on the subject.

In USA, compared to France, you can add the issue of student debt (slavery). And the city layout being made for cars, public transportation or bikes are scarce, meaning young ones have to heavely rely on parents to do any activitie.

Oh... and your president is not just bad and malevolent, like in France, he is also senile. But like in France, a lot of citizen have voted for him.

Finnaly, who is really sick here ?

"It is not a sign of good mental health to be well adapted to a sick society."


lol you can’t expect to be taken seriously if you are recommending that subreddit.


So.. that's just a card moving simulator ? I am missing something crazy or why does this have that many points on Hacker news ?


I don't know how people hate on Flash. A teenager could make great games that ran at 60fps on a Pentium II. Today we're impressed that you can slide some cards around with Javascript.


I actually did the first version of Deck of Cards with Flash back in 2008


Simulating playing cards is surprisingly hard.

Doing so flawlessly at consistent 60fps in a mobile browser is quite the feat, don't you think?


Can someone explain what the technical challenges are? On first glance this seems like something one could implement on a weekend, I am sure that's not the case.


You can review the source code right here:

https://github.com/deck-of-cards/standard-deck

I'm not sure that there are many technical challenges. It's 10k lines of Javascript, and a ton of that are curly braces or blank whitespace lines.

I certainly don't want to knock the author here. This IS a neat and satisfying little project. But I have to agree with a comment elsewhere in this sub-thread, pointing out that teenagers were making advanced 60fps video games with Flash back in the 1990's.

Between Flash dying, and VB 6 dying, it feels like the ability for community members to simply MAKE SHIT has eroded tremendously. To be fair, a lot of this has to do with Windows declining as a monopoly desktop platform, and the rise of mobile as an alternate platform. Cross-platform is hard, especially across wildly different form factors and user interface types.

But even so, I miss the days of people showing off cool shit all the time. Stuff you could touch, play with, use. Today the showcase is mostly libraries "written in Rust!", that you can use to build other libraries written in Rust. Along with half-baked tools like Flutter and React Native, that are eternally "one year away" from being suitable for desktop apps, and kinda suck compared to the tools we had decades ago.


I'm the author of Deck.of.Cards, actually did the first version with Flash back in 2008. I started with Flash back in 1999, working in major ad agencies, and nowadays work as fullstack JS developer / entrepreneur.

This project is just a small experiment of mine, wanted to fiddle around with nicer shuffle animation than what's usually seen, and inspire others as well by sharing the source code.

I've also done https://car.js.org for example, and https://flanets.io – those as well just small side experiments..

But ya, i have to agree we used to see more creative stuff when Flash was still around, and that is sad.


I assume the Deck of Cards tool was no easier to implement in Flash than in JS?


Well graphics were easier to do as MovieClips, but otherwise not that much of a difference. Maybe overall easier with DOM actually..


It wasn't surprisingly hard back when Flash wasn't ripped from all browsers.


Only if you ignore the flawlessly at 60 fps part.


And the mobile browser part.


Or even the desktop browser part. If you were on Windows or a Mac, maybe you had access to Flash player.


Don't you think it's just neat? I think it's neat.


We just don't want to freely give our data to US competitors companies. Is that hard to understand ? Do you think US company would reveal their blueprints and source code to the rest of the world ?

A phobia is an irrational fear, this is a rational fear.

About how EU treat engineers, this is a separate issue, in France at least, there is the belief that advancing in your career (=get paid more) means becoming manager.


It is not hard to understand, I am all for it. Please see my response here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35392323

I think for career advancement, getting paid more is not the only motivation for a lot of world class engineers. Innovatio itself is sometimes sufficient.


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