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Quebec probably has the single best cooperative financing ecosystem in the world (1B+$). There’s a need for more risk-driven investment instruments in the sector however to seed early stage ventures. Most of the funds end up getting reinvested in existing cooperatives who can already access traditional funding.


What do you mean by trad funding? Loans? Bonds? Equity investments?


Mainly debt instruments (loans, lines of credit, etc.) and occasionally preferred shares.


Welp, there goes another SaaS platform in our corporate ops toolchain. Anyone have a recommendation for a tool to handle the cap table for an early-stage cooperative with several hundred members that won’t cost us an arm and a leg? Excel?


What is your budget? Curious what folks pay for this type of service and how the billing is structured.

It seems like there's a gap to be filled between the recent Carta issues and now this.


Usually structured based on a couple of variables; 1. features required and 2. seats required


Hi @Gaessaki - feel free to checkout cakeequity.com we are suited for early stage companies and provide the tools required without costing an arm and a leg. It's free to get started and check the platform out.


Our coop took part in start.coop. Open to answering questions from anyone interested in starting a cooperative startup!


how does outside investment work - do they just get a share of the profits, similar to worker-owners but without voting rights?

and what about sweat equity - how do founders get compensated for starting the thing and working for free?


This was a fundamental question for me before taking the plunge into starting a coop. Long story short, I did a lot of research and there wasn’t anything that really compensated risk in early stage startups hence the dearth of platform coops.

We ended up structuring our coop to have equity split from voting rights to allow employees to have ESOPs and investors to invest as they do in traditional corporation minus their control of the board. In theory we would be able to IPO down the line, and perhaps become the first coop to do so without demutualizing or a separate investment vehicle on the side.


This is good feedback though, as I had the same issues. It shows the value of launching and iterating quickly with user feedback, rather than building in the dark in the guise of perfection.


also a good demonstration of the "you can never please everyone, so it's not worth trying to" adage


Managing the dispatch of our delivery drivers and monitoring our infra over the holidays.

Wish there was some way to bond with others that are on-call while being on-call. It’s lonely with the rest of the company being away. I guess this thread is a close as we get.

Best of luck to you and anyone else with generator fires and Happy Holidays to all!


Our venture-backed cooperative startup board has 1/3rd of its seats reserved for its employees, which incorporates both corporate staff (devs, marketing, etc) and operational staff (drivers, support).

The other 2/3rds are divided equally between our restaurant and consumer members. Each member class votes exclusively for their portion of the board seats.

We’re nearing year three, and this arrangement has been working well for us. We’ll see if it can continue to scale as we expand geographically.


IMHO as someone who participated in a lot of these non-equity corporate accelerators, both as a startup and as part of the technical teams supporting the initiatives (at two different companies), it’s primarily cheap PR for both the parent company and the startups. There are some perks like the product and service credits as well as the opportunity to network with relevant teams at ParentCo, but I find the experience hardly comparable to a more traditional accelerator like YC. It’s a question of incentives.

If your partner has the bandwidth, I would consider applying for the perks, but I would be mindful of getting distracted by things that don’t entail building product/solving the core problem and selling to clients.


Send me an email (bio), organizing something with a couple of others!


Your email isn't in your bio :/

Please send me an email here! jingxiangmo.public@gmail.com


Montréal, anyone? :)


C'est parti. On fait ça quand?


Shoot moi un courriel (bio) et je m’occupe du doodle !


Lets do it!


Send me an email (in bio) and I’ll schedule a time!


Didn't mean to imply that they were necessarily doing anything wrong or right (and I tried to clarify that with the last sentence of my post).

In my book, "taking down a notch" means to humble someone. Companies like Apple and Google can make uniliteral decisions that move markets (for better or for worse), in a way that other companies can't. The crux of the question is whether they'll be able to hold onto this liberty.

On the same vein, I think it's totally fair to ask whether a non-tech company like Nestlé could be taken down a notch.

All that being said, I buy your point. As long as their core offerings remain undisrupted/maintained, it's hard to envision things being different.


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