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That was me.


Thanks! I was just scanning the comments from your non-DupDetector account so I could provide more info here.


No.

"Conceding" means passing. If you don't pass, you have to play. If you play when the game is effectively over, you either play in your opponent's territory and get captured, or your own, which reduces your score. If you play in your own territory enough then you can actually end up losing your eyes, and then be captured.


I guess the remark comes from the "perhaps infinite" proof game. I don't know why they put "perhaps infinite" there as most Go rulesets have rules against repeating board positions.


A mathematically established lower bound on the longest possible go game is 10^10^48 [1]. While this isn't infinite, it's certainly large enough to be considered infinite in practice.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_and_mathematics


Of course there are situations in mathematics where the tightest proven bound is 10^10^48 and the conjectured value is 7.


For what may or may not be an example, Graham's number is astonishingly huge, but math world (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GrahamsNumber.html) claims the answer to problem it is an upper bound for may even be larger than 11:

"Graham and Rothschild (1971) also provided a lower limit by showing that N must be at least 6. More recently, Exoo (2003) has shown that N* must be at least 11 and provides experimental evidence suggesting that it is actually even larger."*

In this case, I think it is safe to claim that the answer is at least 361!/8, though (but that may already include many truly silly games with suicidal moves in the opening or games that continue way past the time experienced players think they are over)


Sure, but that number is a lower bound, not an upper bound.


Oh, wow, I misread that. So what's the protocol for dealing with trolls who refuse to concede?


At some point they fill in their territory and lose all of their stones. Eventually they will have no where to play.


From three days ago, this submission has a few comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7722415

These do not:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7711512 (one comment)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7728974 (no comments)


I've been looking at your posting history and I'm curious - what is your connection with the cosmosup.com web site?


Video of the presentation plus an extensive discussion here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7712297


There are some comments from the submission two years ago when this was new:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=889353


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