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In Norway saying stuff like that is sadly extremely politically taboo, so not every teacher will say that.


It's the same in the U.S., for the most part. But they'll say it to you privately.


Extroverts need people to talk to, they have no choice in the matter and some people might need help with knowing where to start with basic stuff like registering a company etc. And some people need some emotional support, it does not need to be logical support just: "you worked hard have a hug" type support.

But I totally agree with the don't talk with people about difficult work stuff you are trying to do to, like it takes years and rare talent to understand something in such a way that you can do "something different, and seriously intense" and make money off it, so there might be nobody in the world that you can have a proper discussion with about your thing.

But on a personal level time spent making friends can be truly rewarding. I mean we humans are herd animals, there is no escaping it. I personally get along truly well with very few people, but I can get along with some people for a short amount of time, so visiting different groups of people from time to time gives me a lot of joy, even if I would never truly get along with those people for more than a few hours each week/month.


I agree that human connections are important and valuable. I just find that they can't have anything to do with work, and they certainly don't help you with your work (which is what the post above said).

The people I interact with socially/romantically can't understand my work at all and are totally separate from it.


And boredom and desperation. One thing is to have the rare talent and opportunity, another is to actually truly go for it. Most people lack the daring and rebelliousness to think that they can prove that all of humanity in all of history have misunderstood something truly fundamental.


Some people learn fast, very very fast, and they might get so fascinated by something that they have no choice but to try to learn certain things. It can feel like suffocating not to try to learn that amazing looking something, and it can be so much fun when the learning is so fast. So for some people its less about time and more about accidentally learning multiple subjects.


Persistence is a skill that needs to be trained just like all skills, intellectually gifted people tend to get little training in it because they learn stuff fast and thus don't get the usual amount of training in it like others, so what you need to do is pick a thing you want to do that's boring and then measure the time of how long you manage to do it in one day, then you reward yourself with something, next time you try to do it for longer than last time and if you manage that then you give yourself another reward. It's just a skill, it's hard to train but train it you must if you want to be good at it. There is nothing more to it sadly, its a simple problem with a boring simple solution, you just have to put in the hours and train that skill.


This was painfully visible during first year at university - all the gifted people who during high school didn't have to learn at home at all hit the wall. They simply couldn't manage like that anymore.

Many somehow switched and started learning/working on assignment, those who didn't didn't make it.


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Some people got this thing called sensory overexcitability, it makes sensory things be more intense and detailed for them, and it probably makes some of them really appreciate the extra quality in FLAC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overexcitability

Not many people got sensory overexcitability so a/b testing with random selection might not show those peoples opinions.

Its like saying most of humanity can't read JavaScript code so JavaScript is a completely shit programming language that are only used by stupid uninformed mindless coders who don't understand real programming, and that they are too lacking in intellectual ability to realize that and move over to a real programming language.

And also some music just does not work in low quality, it just turns into noise.


A rare condition probably shouldn't be compared to something which can be learnt and practiced. Given how people can form strong opinions derived from what other people say, I would wager that most audiophiles do not fall into this category. Citing an exception doesn't invalidate the common case.

While it may be the case that the direct parent of my post may have this, they still pointed out the differences were minor compared to pretty much every other technical factor at play in the digital to ear pipeline.


It is assumed due to the higher knowlege and specialisation level that the world has these days, but such moments of change does not come along very often, and people have always been confident about how there is no way their understanding of the world might be severly lacking in some way. So it might just be that all is as it always has been you just have to look at it using a large enough time frame.


Link please to Eskil Steenbergs writings!



That entire presentation is amazing. I recommend it every chance I get.


Thank you! Eskil is such a wizard.


I am not an expert and I don't have the numbers, but not all "gifted" are talented in mathematics. Also the study of the field of mathematics is a task of endurance and slow but steady work, this is something the highest tier gifted (profoundly gifted) tend to suck at even with proper disipline training, but the profoundly gifted is so few in number that they don't really have an effect on the percentage.

Gifted often have one or more of the five overexcitabilities, one of those are Intellectual overexcitability, one can guess that a notable part of gifted who participate got Intellectual overexcitability, then you can make a guess that ca 20% of gifted got Intellectual overexcitability, that 50% fail to get that far in school because of the problems gifted face, then 30% from those gifted living in shitty enviroments that stops them from learning about the joy of mathematics and then 50% of those in turn actually puts in the time to learn mathematics, then 25% is actually good enough to enter so maybe: 0,375%

The education system really sucks for gifted kids, especially highly giften, exceptionally gifted and profoundly gifted, the mildly gifted and moderately gifted can be helped alot by the imperfect solution of being moved up a few classes.


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