Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | 1337biz's comments login

Would be interesting what similar companies are (in parts) most likely agency fronts.

My guess would be quite a few in the soft privacy selling business, such as VPN or email providers.


Proton mail is a CIA front email provider


That is a false statement: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/14demhj/debunki....

To address the broader topic of this thread, there is no comparison between Crypto AG and us. Our encryption occurs client-side, our cryptographic code is open source ( https://proton.me/community/open-source ), and our tech can and has been independently verified. More about this here: https://proton.me/blog/is-protonmail-trustworthy.


Proton Mail's extremely bureaucratic operational deafness, and their glacial pace of product features and open-sourcing, would certainly lend support to that idea.


Hmm... should I choose a provider with a history of spying on everyone and destabilization, or Google? ...OK, I'll go with the CIA.


It is impossible to tell if this is satire or not.


I actually wish this was true. I want an email service that would last forever and is secure enough from my threats, namely security breaches of the email host and account takeover from non state actors.

Gmail is close enough, but I want an alternative. An email service run by the nsa or the cia would be great.

(No sarcasm is intended)


This is so weird. But I love watching it. Crazy the level of intimacy he can sometimes achieve sometimes with made up ideas.


I would be interested in this too. Also from my laymen understanding it should be not that hard to develop filters for at least larger particles. Or is that too simple thought out?


It's the smaller particles that get into cells and cause the most harm unfortunately.


I trust any bar more about privacy than anyone on the internet. Their incentive to maximize consent to stalk me and my behavior is close to non-existing.


Same situation with Ferraris. If only they would hire more people, cut some corners and get a bigger factory, I could afford one!


This is quite a silly comparison, because these cards are cheap to produce and trivial to manufacture relative to something like a car. The value is from the perceived scarcity, not from the perceived quality or luxury or usefulness, and the scarcity is at the whim of the manufacturer who artificially decides which cards will be scarce and which will be common.



To be fair, unlike a monopoly controlled product, Ferraris are fungible in that I can equally not be able to afford a Lamborghini, Bugatti, Koenigsegg and numerous others. We have many options for cars we can't afford. The Honda will have to do. :-)


Not a useful comparison, since the limitation isn't of the supply of cards overall but of particular cards that (other than the material printed) are identical to the common ones.


I would put logging as a bottom tier feature for most chats. The characteristic of chats is in the moment and not some archival function. I am a heavy discord and telegram user but overall I would value the benefit of everything getting deleted after 72hours higher than the few times I actually search for something older than that.


My company uses chats as information stores. Not saying it’s the best idea, but you are an outlier with your preference.


Do employee’s store stuff in the “recycle bin”/“trash”? And get upset when IT empties it when the disc is full?

Yes this is a real thing.


Some days when I am mad at the world I would want to work the help desk at a place like this and just destroy people.


More like your company is in the minority; most orgs recognize the problem with that idea…


While this would be arguing an anecdote with an anecdote, I completely disagree "most orgs" have executed information management well.

A number of places use email as their effective information store. Good luck finding content once everyone in the relevant chains have departed.


I also agree most orgs don’t execute information management well. Knowing chat isn’t a good place for that doesn’t mean they know anything else!


It’s just a bit to save a history then to your favourite search


Good point

Free slacks lose their history in 90 days


You assume that complying with social norms attracts the most brilliant/informed people.


It's very 'reddit' to assume the brightest people share the same societal conventions as themselves.


from the perspective of average redditors, intelligence is obedience to social norms. obedience is their highest virtue, and the more intelligent you are, the better at obeying you can be.


Problem is minimal viable expectations and how fast these ar filled. In 90% of Reddit you will get flamed for offering money for anything. Wouldn‘t even touch my mind to go there.


Surprisingly clear and balanced for a 4chan post. Would have expected a lot more detailed discussion.


You have to take another moral compass that reflects the personal reality. For example someone can be super supportive and volunteer to help immigrants. But on the other hand support hardcore anti-immigrant regulation.

Why? Because he realises that people are selfish and he would act in the immigrants situation the same opportunistic way thus feels sympathy. But at the same way sees opportunistic immigration is a mayor problem for society thus supports hard regulation.

That way leads to situations where you are personal friends with people that you on a systemic level attack, without having a true moral conflict.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: