Enough people run for office who want to do something about climate change. But a plurality of the population seems to be mainly concerned with being angry about immigrants and wanting lower taxes.

Food riots is a thing. It is hard to govern when everyone is upset that it costs too much to live. To do something about climate change we need to do somethings 10 times worse than the pandemic for 10 years. No more visiting grandma who lives 5 hours away.

> It can't be fixed. It's dead.

Lots of good XMPP implementations disprove this.

I hope Matrix just goes away and stops distracting the FOSS community from improving existing internet standards instead of custom protocols by random startups :)

> Lots of good XMPP implementations disprove this.

A list, please. For iOS, Android, macOS, Windows.

> I hope Matrix just goes away and stops distracting the FOSS community from improving existing internet standards instead of custom protocols by random startups :)

XMPP had its chance, it blew it.

> XMPP had its chance, it blew it.

It's not like Matrix is killing it.

It's not exactly a new protocol, yet still feels like it's in the pre-alpha stage. Both protocol and the client/server software.

WhatsApp's contributions to the XMPP ecosystem are nil.

Monal on iOS is making a lot of progress recently.

Mandatory objection to this blog post: https://gultsch.de/objection.html

Good clients which let users communicate outside their own ecosystems: Gajim, Dino, Conversations, Monal, Movim, ...

> Docker image that Just Works

https://snikket.org/service/quickstart/

Is it already possible to join rooms without revealing your global address like in XMPP?

that's pseudo IDs; MSC4014 (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/keg...).

it got implemented in Dendrite, but hasn't made it into Synapse (or the spec) yet.

Those weren't middle class children.

> It never works

Mastodon and Lemmy are both very successful projects.

For what definition of 'very successful' are we using here? Mastodon has <900k MAU, Lemmy <45k. It's not nothing, but compared to what they're competing with(Twitter at > 330 million), they aren't even a blip on the radar.

If we're defining success as not having died out and generally working, I guess I could agree.

Are you enjoying your time on HN? It's about quality not quantity.

Defining success := MAU is a very one dimensional way of thinking and it's not even the most important dimension from a user perspective.

HN is not a mass product and has no ambitions to become a social media for the masses. Mastodon is and does.