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Not trying to defend the EU here, but isn't this true of every government?



> Android enables tons of people all over the world to communicate and do things.

This... sounds like an ad.


It's the truth. Go to Africa, go to South America, a bunch of places, people running businesses and whatnot off their phones. Hardly anyone uses iOS outside a few rich countries. Because most people use them to do stuff, so most open/ubiquitous (and yes cheap) wins.

People somehow worried about an OS given away for free that is still the #1 OS of all user devices including desktops...


They use android because they can't afford iphones, not because "you can do more" with androids


You can do more with Android because you don't have to sell a liver to afford an Apple device.


And where did I say that?


You said that "people use [androids] to do stuff" as if you couldn't do stuff with iphones.


I said the open, cheap and ubiquitous nature gets it into the hands of people who care about doing things. The implication is not that you can do more rather that you can do the same without spending as much on an iPhone (especially since in most of the world people buy devices outright).

And it's the truth. You can do the same with a $400 Android as a top of the line Samsung/Apple device save some games...


I've always used Android, thinking that it would improve with age. But eventually I had to face the fact that Android is always going to suck. On top of that every year it gets more and more locked down. Why not buy an iphone instead? At least it works well.


What sucks about Android?


Performance, battery life, dependence on Google, inconsistent UIs from different manufacturers, bloatware from networks, networks control updates, most phones don't even get much in the way of updates.


This is always interesting. I don't even buy phones anymore if they don't support Lineageos. It fixes all those issues. It still surprises me when I see stock Samsung devices and how utterly rubbish they are. And they are sold as premium flagship devices. The amount of bloat and garbage is incredible.

waves fist at sky


Oh sure. All that was typed by a lineageos user. But such a small minority is likely to use that in the grand scheme. Hence why I thought it relevant to evaluate the "stock firmware".


> dependence on Google

This is silly considering you can de-Google an Android phone. You can't de-Apple an Apple phone.


Few people go to the trouble of installing new images on any device they own. Android is quite the exception, not the rule.


But apple is not an advertisement company (and I don't have iPhone for information)


What are you doing on your phone where performance matters, or what Android phone are you comparing to a relatively new iPhone?

I have a 2 year old mid-level Android and have had 0 performance issues or crashes (aside from Android Auto).


Browsing the web, using normal apps. Things are just snappier on iOS in my experience. It is not a big deal. But it is one area that android could be improved.


Android phones seem to know when you're in an urgent situation.

Need a quick photo? Is maps giving you a direction? Oh let me freeze up! Let me hide the soft keyboard until you restart! Let me get into a bootloop!


Just using Google maps was super slow on my flagship galaxy phone compared to an iPhone SE.

Or rather, stuttering was the bigger problem in those cases. I’m sure the geek scores were similiar in raw performance


Even the Pixel software just feels like a knock-off of iOS. Same UI paradigms, gestures, etc but everything feels cheaper.


They are both copying each other.


I don't think that was his point. Companies take features from competitors all the time.

But even with that "feature sharing", Android's flagship phone still feels like more of a knockoff compared to any iPhone.

Having owned every Pixel and the Nexus predecessors, they have about a 3 year lifespan, software is slow and freezes start after a few updates, the battery isn't great to start but shits out after year 2, then oled burn-ins.

But I got $5 for my Nexus 6P bootloop class action settlement, so there's that I guess...


When your reviews are nothing by lies why should I believe anything else you said?


But when Apple copies your feature, your feature gets better. When you copy Apple's feature, it feels like a cheap knockoff.


Google's swipe typing is better than Apple's clone of it.


The globalists don't exist? That's a new one.


In other words you want to freely spread your political beliefs without anybody complaining.


I just said I'm not a fan of _any_ politics on a tech forum. I do not spread my political beliefs on HN.

Talking politics is, together with discussing your favourite football team or religion, the lowest form of intellectualism: if you agree, it's an echo chamber, if you don't, we're just talking past each other.


> So they don't have random people scouring through every post of theirs and pulling words out of context, like some witchhunters are doing with old emails.

You think?


> They have a law criminalizing offending religious feelings.

Happens in the first world too! 2018: "In Europe, Speech Is an Alienable Right: [the European Court of Human Rights] upheld an Austrian woman’s conviction for disparaging the Prophet Muhammad."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-fr...


I know it does. It’s a matter of degree. How bad does the threat to free expression have to be before a society is not a functional democracy? It’s a judgement call.


Although I know what you meant by 1st world (e.g. Western Europe / N. America), I found it funny because technically Austria isn’t in the first world and never has been. Since it never aligned itself with the US, Austria was considered a 3rd world country just like Ireland, Finland, Sweden, Hungry and Mexico.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World


> Life is best spent in service to others.

[citation needed]


I think this is one of those things that is learned through experience (wisdom) and will never be proven with any citations (i.e. peer-reviewed, rigorous collective experience).

Not that I have that wisdom myself. I only think I might arrive at that conclusion eventually.


You can't get from an is to an ought.


C++ is a programming language.


Ok, turns out I just maybe don't have humor :)


Don't worry, took me several seconds to parse it too :) Somehow the extra + (like C++) went through some cognitive filter.


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