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These results are meaningless, Waymo only drives in controlled, good weather, urban streets, while the human control group does not. This is not science, this is PR. We need independent investigations.

And remember that currently, self-driving cars in California are exempt from traffic tickets : https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/04/self-driv...

We learned that the hard way with Boeing, you cannot trust a company to self-regulate their safety standards. But with Musk in power, the legislation might encourage them to do so.



"controlled areas" is relative - for example it includes mayhem zone SOMA and the hills. Also they just got started, relatively speaking, and have been expanding. Give it a minute.

Really, computers seem more naturally suited to driving in SF than humans - from the point of view of paying attention to enough things, not having to pay attention to map navigation and having more modes of sensory input than humans.


I'll believe such companies with my life and life of my family when they can handle usual South east Asia capital city for example also during monsoon, say Bombay. Because this is in stake, nothing less.

This aint some web app deployment where flaws are annoying but thats about it.

I've just finished 2 day 1500km drive back home across Europe in various storms, heavy rain, a bit of snow, a lot of it in the dark, tons of properly dangerous idiots, weird non standard marked repairs (we talk about germany), some serious accidents along the way, few nearly misses. Our F11 BMW 5 series took it on effortlessly, complementing my and wife's skills but not interfering. I am not stellar but definitely above average driver. I've done this drive maybe 30x over past 15 years, without kids normally in one 16-18 hour push. Nr of clueless idiots is definitely rising and roads are definitely more full.

No way in hell I'll trust something fully with most precious stuff in my life until its properly battle proven by billions of miles in harsh complex situations, which what you describe it isnt. Till then there is no self driving, just steps towards it. I don't need this for driving around some short distances that much. Good luck with beta testing to ya all.


Google says

>Waymo One, is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in the following cities:

>Los Angeles Waymo One is available across nearly 80 square miles of LA County, including Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, and Downtown LA.

>San Francisco Waymo One is available across 55 square miles of the Bay Area...

24/7 across those areas sounds different to what you mention.


I agree about the 24/7 part, but the safe zone and weather biases are too big to ignore


I have taken a Waymo in the rain before, if they have stopped supporting that as part of the service that’s new, buts it’s definitely within the systems capabilities. It worked great


They can handle almost all weather except snow. Freeways are coming soon. From what I heard, San Francisco is way above average in terms of driving difficulty.




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