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Sex changes/gender transitions is an actual boring health problem. The inability to assume the correct gender for a trans person often leads to social rejection, violence, poverty, prostitution, murder, and suicide.



If through gene editing you could also erase someone's disphoria what option would you choose?


Isn’t it obviously good to get rid of someone’s problem? Otherwise it wouldn’t be a problem.


If your perception doesn't match your body, would you prefer to change the perception or change the body?


It seems pretty clear to me that changing one’s body is preferable to changing who you are. The former is something you’re born with, but the latter is something you can decide for yourself.


Suppose, as you do, that your body is not who you are. Then your identity lies solely in your brain. But if that's the case why would disphoria even exist?

If you feel like a man but you don't look like a man, why could that cause any identity problems? It must mean your body is actually part of your identity, so changing it changes who you are


The problem with this argument is that it leads to the conclusion that all change is pointless. If your body is who you are, and you can’t control it, then it’s best just to accept whatever you’re given.

That’s contrary to most of human history, where we specifically try not to take what we’re dealt.

It’s useful to ask yourself: why should vaccines be "allowed" (or "accepted" or "they’re good") but body change shouldn’t be? They’re both as artificial as a Twinkie.


That’s like trying to cure depression by getting rich. It hardly ever works


What?


Cutting off body parts to treat body dysphoria is something that should be done with great care and rarely leads to solving the underlying mental problems.

Trans is a much discussed variant that is hard to have a normal talk about, but there are many more variants, for instance women hating their breast & wanting to remove them, I think most people here would agree that intensive psychological treatment are preferable to actually removing healthy body parts. But in the end an adult can do what they want.


Erasing someone's dysphoria would also fundamentally change their identity and personality. If I were to suffer a head injury today that so altered my personality, the result would be very unpredictable. I could become a better person, or a worse one. I could lose my wife, my career, everything. But even if the outcome were positive, I wouldn't be me anymore. This me would cease to exist, replaced by a new one.

On the other hand, a bodily alteration is much more predictable, and, importantly, I'd still be me. I wouldn't become some other person.

This me has an instinct for self-preservation. Thus, if both options were available, I would absolutely choose transition over erasure.


You seem to come from the point of view that body and mind are quite separate, and that changing your body through surgery and hormones and other chemicals has less effects on the "real you" than a change in brain wiring would cause.




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