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I will give up on android and move to iPhone. Google cannot build products whatsoever.



As said they have the same problems, and a lot less options to do anything about it. It is different kool-aid, but still just kool-aid.

If you really want secure and private, get a dumb phone, and just use it as a phone. Anything else, use linux that you can actually control and audit.


That would be a pretty expensive mistake considering iOS also has VPN leaking issues that have been reported but unfixed for what, years at this point?


Is there any company that can make a competent product? Valve needs to get into the phone game.


Nope, any phone with a cellular modem ships with unreplaceable firmware that is likely used to spy on you. Failing that, many governments field the capability to forcibly reroute cellular traffic over backdoored networks. You could be using a PinePhone with PostMarketOS and still get wiretapped in any number of ways.




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