Is it an ad hominem attack to point out that the author is a raving racist?
"For one, a solid proportion of Uber drivers are one bad day away from committing a terror attack, such as allahuakbarramming a van into pedestrians, "[0]
Not an adhom, it's valid to point out to give context to any sideways ideology that might show up. Often times these "discipline, hard world, grind" bloggers are set in a certain ideological context. So pointing that out helps contextualize what you're reading. The idea of "be careful who you take advice from". For example, I would not take advice from someone who believes:
`Impostor syndrome – Pangs of realistic self-reflection in impostors.`
or:
`Harassment (sexual) – Flirting attempts by ugly, short, fat, poor, or otherwise undesirable men.`
or:
`Misogyny – Women who hate men imagining that men hate them back.`
or:
`Planned parenthood – An eugenics programme posing as a human rights campaign`
People who hold really toxic, and in this case overtly Misogyny beliefs, tend to leak it into the rest of their advice and writings.
Adhom would be attacking them for it to detail the argument. Rather, you're just indicating "this guy has some horrible beliefs, be careful". Which is valid when you're getting the kind of exposure a HN top post does.
Thank for that clear response. There probably is an argument that different approaches work for different people. And the things you write about might help someone else decide if your advice might work for them
Yes, of course it is, unless you can draw a connection between a comment like that and what they're writing in this article. Then it would be totally legitimate.
People who fail to find a positive meaning in their life and who try to coerce themselves into activity without compassion for their own vulnerabilities also tend to fail to find positives in other people’s lives and are willing to coerce in general.
Do you think that someone with racist beliefs is incapable of having legitimate opinions on unrelated things? Or that it makes them a monster worth shunning altogether?
If this was a discussion about his Uber article, then I think it would be entirely on point to suggest that he appears to have a biased view that may call into question his conclusions.
I went and read that article since you mentioned it, and I thought it was halfway interesting. Controversial, opinionated, unfair to some Muslims for sure, but he did raise some legitimate points. Shouting him down as racist would be easy, but I think the cultural questions are very legitimate in the modern, diverse world we live in. Even if they're uncomfortable.
Plus, the point nearer the end sounds very legitimate on it's face. Is it true that there are a fleet of really nice cars being driven by people who seem unlikely to be granted the funds to buy them, and then used for ride sharing? If that is in fact true, it would indeed be good to know why. I'd argue that the economics of Uber should make organized crime uninterested, but maybe I'm very wrong.
> Do you think that someone with racist beliefs is incapable of having legitimate opinions on unrelated things? Or that it makes them a monster worth shunning altogether?
Exactly. Take what you like from what they wrote, skip the rest. These constant attempts to mark people as good or evil with no in-between disturbs me greatly. It's possible for a racist to change their stripes. I know because I did it. I grew up in a household that was otherwise normal but my dad had very racist views against blacks. I had normalized that growing up, and over time I managed to change it. It helped that the first African American I ever met turned out to be one of the most interesting people I had ever met.
It's possible for a racist to actually have important things to say on topics other than race. It's possible a person with racist views is otherwise a good person, they just need to work on themselves a little more. And, sure, it's possible they will never move past it or worse will let it consume them. Life isn't simple.
"These constant attempts to mark people as good or evil with no in-between disturbs me greatly. "
Interestingly, what you describe is the sort of black and white thinking that the author does, in the article about motivation/discipline as well as the article on Muslim Uber drivers. They are both sort of ranty, and show a lack of empathy toward people who aren't like the author. In that sense think the racist article is very helpful in taking in the first one.
The article itself isn't helpful to those of us who struggle with productivity issues -- well, at least not this one. I know the situations I do well in and I know the situations I do poorly at. I've been both the proverbial "rock star" developer who had a ton of highly prominent contributions, and I've been the one who got fired for missing deadline after deadline after constantly overestimation my ability to crank out code like I'm in a job interview. I know how hard a thing it is to get the balance right so I stay productive. This article does very little except make me feel bad about myself.
Set aside the question of marking people as good or evil.
Would you recommend that article (the one about motivation) to someone you know? Would you include a warning about the other content on the blog? Would you send it to a young person? If you were putting it on your own blog what would you write about it?
I would probably let people know the author's sense of humor is "edgy" but that the article itself is good. YMMV. I wouldn't recommend it to a young person because of the remarks the author made around the idea of "graduality".
I think that there are lots of really nice people in this world some of whom write really interesting things. I think that someone who writes racist things is capable of having good opinions on other things. But why would I bother with reading them when I can see that the author is happy to publish things that I think are abhorrent. So yeah I think that's equivalent to shunning them. I just don't want to waste my time reading an article sense checking every phrase and fact like it's a PR for a critical module in the code base.
When someone tells you who they are then believe them.
>> Or that it makes them a monster worth shunning altogether?
Yes. Absolutely. There are some ideas that are innately perverse to the point that they should have no place in civil society. I won't support the government banning them, because the government can't be trusted with such power, but not only will I shun people who hold such ideas, but I'll judge and become much more suspicious of people who tolerate those people.
Having one idea is rarely orthogonal to having another. There is a heavy correlation, for example, between holding the idea "some races are better than others" with the idea "some genders are better than others" and "a small subset of society has a divine right to rule over the rest". If they hold such ideas so strongly they feel the need to share it with the rest of the world, rather than rightfully feeling ashamed, then they're probably beyond the point of deprogramming, and for the greater good should be pushed away from the rest of society.
Not all heroes wear capes. What happens if during your eager vigilante efforts you call out somebody wrongly? Do we get to call you out? Or as as a self appointed racism batman you absolve yourself of any false positives?
Conversely, what they're writing in this article is nothing special and the website as a whole is bait. Yes, this advice is exactly what some people need to hear now, today...so what? There is an endless supply of self-help advice on the net, just like there are shelves full of it at the bookstore.
> what they're writing in this article is nothing special
That is both a matter of opinion as well as an accurate observation for 99.99% of all content on the Internet. I think if you read the post (and the author's other ones) looking for answers, you will likely be disappointed. But if you read it looking for questions, it's not terrible.
It's not that the post itself is particularly bad, it's just generic. My point is that generic good advice is filler material that you can get anywhere, and there's no particular need to go rummaging through a landfill for it. In some cases, it's deployed to attract people to the landfill and expose them to more 'edgy' opinions.
The idea that we shouldn't look at things in context, but evaluate every claim in isolation, is a misapplication of academic standards to a decidedly non-academic attention marketplace full of perverse incentives. It leverages FOMO, the fear of missing out on a piece of useful or insightful information.
Can't say I'm surprised given the baity blog title. Sites like this are always 'tune out the noise (but not my blog, pls sign up for daily emails etc. etc).'
"Sensationalist news" plus the terrible writing in general was a tell. I guess this is so old the "fake news!" cliché wasn't popular yet?
Their Twitter is currently ranting about "unstable schizoneurotic bullies, currently trans allied" so not an expert in psychological advice I'm guessing...
Immigrants from these troubled hotspots often end up in jobs such as cab/uber drivers.
Can you please explain without hyperbole/intentional obtuseness which part you find disagreeable? And which race do you think is being referenced?
Nowhere in your link is he advocating for anything except proper vetting of drivers. I'm quite sure it extends to filtering out not only potential jihadis but also far right extremists and mentally unstable people.
In part 2 of the article under discussion, there's this gem:
> In porn, they don’t ask a girl fresh off the street to do anal with five black bodybuilders (high five, guys!). It starts with tasteful semi-nudes (“Hey, it’s a legit modeling job”), then semi-tasteful nudes….you get the idea.
It took me about 30s to find many examples of racist shit opinions on that site. Just check out his "accurate definitions" page - or don't, if you don't want to bother filling your eyes with horseshit.
"For one, a solid proportion of Uber drivers are one bad day away from committing a terror attack, such as allahuakbarramming a van into pedestrians, "[0]
0 - http://www.wisdomination.com/my-islamist-uber-driver-and-mod...