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Why Most Women Will Never Become CEO (forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech)
12 points by satyajit on Nov 1, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 15 comments


The same reason that most men will never become CEO, perhaps?


As of this past May, only twelve of the Fortune 500 companies were run by women.

So no.


No, hugh3 is saying that the reason why most women won't be CEO and why most men won't be CEO is the same -- there are a lot of men and women and not a lot of CEOs. Simply by the pigeonhole principle most men and women won't become CEOs.

What the author meant to say (and screwed up) is "Why Most CEOs Won't Be Women."


I think you missed it.

The reason most women will never become a CEO is because there are far less than 3.5 billion CEO positions available for filling. This is also the reason most men will never become a CEO.


hugh3 is pointing out that the title is worded incorrectly. Since CEOs represent a very small portion of people, most people will never become CEOs regardless of their gender.


Reread the headline. Its symbolic meaning is clear enough—"why most CEOs will never be women"—but its literal meaning is stupid. Of course most women will never become CEO; most men won't, either.


"Let’s face it: unless there’s beer involved, men don’t have many instincts at all."

And this is where I closed the page and moved on.


Rant follows.

The first page of this article made me feel physically ill. The second page just made me feel sorry for these people. Where does this guy work?

Apparently, one of the girls’ boyfriends at the theatre had made a remark about another girl’s makeup in the group. He thought she looked - hot. Oh boy.

Why else wear makeup?

The [boys'] ride home was filled with laughter, profanity, burps, flatulence and a few head slaps.

I've been on trips with high school girls where all of this happened, plus some really inappropriate "truth-or-dare" questions. Anyway, what part of that is sexist?

Words, thoughts and important points are missed because of a new perfume or a low cut blouse.

Trust me, if I could turn that off, I would. If I could ask the woman to wear more considerate clothing at work, I would. That really bothers me.

Men don’t have this kind of instinctual tug. Let’s face it: unless there’s beer involved, men don’t have many instincts at all.

Complete bullshit. Remember this from a few days ago? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3149170 "And by God, he was right. I wouldn't just throw myself under a bus for my baby, I'd happily throw my wife under that bus too - without the slightest hesitation." No instincts, my ass.

We figure our wives will ultimately handle these things. And in many cases, they just do.

That's not instincts, you idiot. It took years of training and a large support network for your wife to learn how to "take care of things" like that.

Men can sprinkle profanity in their conversation and it endears them as one of the folks.

The guys I know who swear at work tend to be more circumspect around women. But I never noticed any particular backlash against women swearing.

Men can date women thirty years younger and get high fives from their peers. As much as many women would like to do that they just won’t.

Those men are asses. Sure we might laugh about it, but they're still asses. And it contradicts your own next paragraph:

we joke about the woman teacher that had a one-nighter with the high school football player. And then we’re enraged by the male teacher who did the same thing with one of his female students.

Both teachers are in the wrong and should be trusted not to take advantage of students.

[Women] could never comment on the looks of a fellow co-worker.

?????


Words, thoughts and important points are missed because of a new perfume or a low cut blouse.

Trust me, if I could turn that off, I would. If I could ask the woman to wear more considerate clothing at work, I would. That really bothers me.

I will add that no man would show up at the office in a muscle shirt, with his shoulders, upper arms, upper back, etc on display. And I've known men who complained about having to wear a shirt and tie -- felt like they were choking. In that regard, women have way more leeway in how they can dress and it is a completely sexist thing. My general rule of thumb: If no man would put it on display at the office, then I shouldn't either.* Unbuttoned/low-cut shirts displaying a man's chest are also considered sexy. This is not limited to women's bodies. But men generally show up at work covered up to the neck -- and would be sent home to change if they did not. The tank tops and the like that I am entitled to wear are off limits for the men at work.

* I do wear conservative v-necks. Much to my annoyance, many of the shirts I would like to wear I worry would get me sent home for being too t-shirt-like. It's quite hard to find work appropriate clothes that fit the dress code constraints, budgetary constraints, constraints imposed by my health issues...etc...all at the same time.


I'm not sure if it's a law or just a policy, but the dress code might not be enforced in a gender-specifc way. For example: a guy was annoyed that the dress code disallowed him to wear shorts, so he protested by wearing a short skirt, which was allowed by the dress code. Definitely a double standard.


> The guys I know who swear at work tend to be more circumspect around women. But I never noticed any particular backlash against women swearing.

There is this guy nicknamed "Chumbo Grosso" who presented an eponymous police report in the local TV channel. There's a trend toward sensationalist programs in Brazilian TV but this guy was swearing above average. Then they have brought a woman to present part of the program alongside him, to soften his tone.


Normally I don't think this link belongs here (after all its Hacker News and not Sociology Today), but since we're talking about genders here's a good article on the negative consequences of feminism: http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.h...


You're a misogynist. From your link, you oppose female contraception, no fault divorce, and female economic freedom. To pick but one point from your pseudo history: "There was never any organized male opposition to women entering the workforce". Did you miss the history of the women's lib movement? Marriage bars? Was the equal pay act of 1963 passed unanimously? Did women have equal access to education? etc etc etc

Anyway, you won't change your mind and there's really no point in debating stupid people, but that doesn't mean I have to be polite to jackasses.


I wonder why you react so emotionally. Come on, someone wrote something that I find somewhat relevant, I link to it, and you call me a misogynist, which, by the way, I assure you I am not.


Dear jackass,

You're a misogynist and a liar. You not only linked to that blog out of the billions of blogs in the world, but you also linked to it with approval that you later edited out of your post (something along the lines of this link is controversial but it shouldn't be). Grow the fuck up and at least own your feudal beliefs.




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