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Why would you expect proprietary tech to work with anything, though.

That’s what I don’t get - people buy locked down stuff and then complain that it’s locked down. There are plenty of alternatives that aren’t locked down.

By FairPhone, use Signal, use Webapps, etc.

I don’t get the defeatist mentality.




The defeatist mentality from my perspective is arguing that we shouldn't try to make locked down stuff less locked down.

And in many cases, you don't have a choice to use Signal or etc. What if all your contacts are using iMessage? Sure, most of them will have SMS, but that's not guaranteed. There will always be edge cases of users who are locked in due to situations outside of their control. Shouldn't we be trying to make things less locked down for them?


I’d agree with you if it weren’t advertised as locked down.

Take this site for example - it doesn’t display Reddit posts or work with your Reddit account.

It’s not worth energy complaining to the administrators saying that it should work with your Reddit account.

The same relationship exists with iMessage and signal


The people I want to communicate with don't have Signal or any other messaging app. They have iMessage, which only allows you to communicate effectively with other apple devices.




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