I have used some of them. Indeed not as good but useable.
Sadly Lenovo is taking alot of wrong directions imo, non-removeable battery, soldering memory now etc... I'd be happy to try something else and love the concepts behind the Framework.
Lenovo's descent into soldered RAM and the elimination of external batteries has me rooting for Framework too.
My daily driver is currently a T-480 that's about 3.5 years old. The relative stagnation of CPU and even IO in laptops has it still feeling reasonable to use. I'm hoping that by the time I want to replace it, Framework will really have found their stride and my decision will be obvious.
And I'd rather be stuck with a touchpad than a soldered SSD, which feels like Lenovo's next logical move.
Sadly Lenovo is taking alot of wrong directions imo, non-removeable battery, soldering memory now etc... I'd be happy to try something else and love the concepts behind the Framework.