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It always amazes me that there is this hardcore of people on hn who are so anti ProtonMail.

If you use gmail, It is my understanding that google ai will routinely read all your messages and add anything interesting to your profile so they can target you for ads. Law enforcement also has open access to everything in your mailbox all of the time.

ProtonMail don't read your email but will supply metadata to authorities in response to a lawful warrant.

That still feels like a difference between gmail and ProtonMail. I pay for that difference, your money your choice.




Gmail hasn't used email content for ads for years: source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html


Moreover, it doesn't matter if they use it for commercial purposes, what matter here is that governments can force protonmail to collect IPs and nothing else.

You're on Gmail or outlook ?

Well, now governments can have your IP, email contents and anything else you can imagine.


Not for ads but for various kinds of text completion suggestions. Google's AI still reads contents from our email body to suggest text or reminders.


I don't disagree, but this is always the risk for platforms that try to sell privacy in a bottle.

Hard to incorporate what threat vectors their users should be mindful of and recommend steps to mitigate in their marketing without scaring people off who want to do nothing but outsource their privacy™ to someone else and not think twice about it, even if some of those people are hn users…


Where can I pay to have my provider say "nope" to the french police force a case like this?


Set up your own encrypted email server

If anyone has specific recommendations for which open source encrypted platforms to set up, I am all ears


Where are you gonna host your server?

Why setting up a server vs simply using a vpn?




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